English Project: CS2D Map Overhaul

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28.12.15 03:02:56 pm
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Yates
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10/10 would let my FN F2000 be replaced on update √
28.12.15 03:22:17 pm
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user DC has written:
This is an awesome idea. I thought about it myself because the standard maps really don't look as good as they could but it always was too much effort for me to work on that.

I would love to replace the current original maps with these much more beautiful versions. I think they look really amazing and everyone should see them.

When using improved maps it also makes sense to re-consider using the improved skins as default.

What do you think, user smn? Would you give me the permission to pack your stuff into the regular CS2D download as a replacement for the old maps/skins?

I always had concerns about the overall download size of CS2D and I still embrace the idea of a small download but I think a few additional mb for much more beautiful maps won't be a big problem for like 99% of all CS2D players.

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28.12.15 03:55:37 pm
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SmD
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Looks beautiful! Gj simon.
28.12.15 05:15:08 pm
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But there is some ppls would not like to use the new skins.. like me..
If i get you DC correctly so: there is maybe possibly to include two versions of cs2d's skins client. For example when you install cs2d you may choose between 4 options:
> What are you want to do?
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1)Install old-styled cs2d
2)Install new-styled cs2d
3)Install old-styled cs2d skins
4)Install new-styled cs2d skins.

For those who don't like such skins, etc, they may just change them easily.
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28.12.15 05:35:50 pm
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user Mora_rus has written:
But there is some ppls would not like to use the new skins.. like me..

user Mora_rus siganture has written:
Not playing cs2d any more.

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28.12.15 06:03:08 pm
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Too bad I couldn't see the images. Imgur, maybe? Although I couldn't see the images I'm really sure that your maps are looking great. Looking forward to see those maps! Don't forget to replace the GUI too!
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28.12.15 06:43:52 pm
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they are so freaking awesome! i love your remake of the maps!
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28.12.15 06:46:49 pm
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@user Yates: What is the sense of this? I said my opinion, as it would be if i play this game. Cause of everything boring i just leave it.. I'm sometimes in the topics about skins or files just like them and said that i'm not gonna use it cause i prefer sd ones.
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28.12.15 06:48:11 pm
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Yes, cs2d needs a replacement of some of the original maps and tiles, also of gfx and maybe why not SFX.

@user DC: , 10 mb would still be super small, people these days is downloading 40 GB games...


@user smn:

i'd leave the maps that were already remade (up_ ones)

These ones need rework:

de_cpl_mill (EU) if you give a better looking to it, then you're a boss :p

de_cbble (which i think up_cbble is coming but anyways)..

de_tuscanpod

de_infernopod

de_thorpod( which already looks good)
de_cima

pcs_arno( this one could get some modifications because its too CT sided)

a small one which needs rework:

de_embrador

I gave you that list because if you modificate them they will be played, but if you modificate de_train for example, it wont be so amazing because we already have up_train


About de_inferno, nice, that map needed a remake, but it looks a bit "plain"
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30.12.15 01:08:36 am
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user Mora_rus has written:
But there is some ppls would not like to use the new skins.. like me..
If i get you DC correctly so: there is maybe possibly to include two versions of cs2d's skins client. For example when you install cs2d

I'm sure DC won't give up on his original files entirely, even if he prefers mine. :p

user Andrez has written:
@user smn:
i'd leave the maps that were already remade (up_ ones)

Well, I'm not much of a fan of the up_ maps. You're right though, it might be useful to start with the maps that haven't been remade yet.
I'll do that when I finished my first 3 maps.

user Andrez has written:
About de_inferno, nice, that map needed a remake, but it looks a bit "plain"

It's not done yet, don't worry.
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QUICK UPDATE

As suggested by some of you, I tried to do something about the map boundaries on dust2.


I have to admit, this took me quite a while to figure out and create since I didn't really like fake shadows and buildings other people use.


These are the only parts of the map I've done so far, but it shouldn't be too long before I finish the boundaries.
After that it's just fine-tuning and the map should be completed.

And yes, I'll also do this on other maps (even if Simonas doesn't like it, muhahah).
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'Plain' inferno also got a bit of a facelift. Added some lighting and a couch or bench here and there. I'm also working on some changes concerning gameplay since there appear to be a slight balance issues.


Thanks to Pagyra for sending me a massive folder of props to use. I do need to edit them to fit my style, but it's very helpful anyway.


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Next up, a lil sneek peak of what de_nuke might look like. Once again, very CSGO-inspired. Not even close to finishing.



And yes, I'm getting rid of the ridiculous way from spawn. Honestly, the only reason I don't like nuke sometimes is because of the fucking hike you have to take to get out of spawn. Also, I think that's what Valve is doing in their new version of nuke as well. (At least I hope so)
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One more thing. You can test my version of dust2 on the server '[Q] [TAB] CS2D Reborn'. Thank you, Yates.

That's all for now. Let me know what you think.
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30.12.15 02:56:58 am
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Hello my friend. First of all I want to say YOUR PROJECTS ARE AWESOME so nice to see you again. A few minutes ago I saw de_dust2_smn and it looks pretty cool but personally I don't like maps with teleports especially for competitive gamemode. Anyways good luck and I wish you successful work!

user Andrez please don't give him another job, he already know what to do. Simon isn't from Brazil, don't worries.
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30.12.15 06:29:25 am
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it might be problematic to use teleports on maps because bots wont work with them. like in dust2 above
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30.12.15 07:15:58 am
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Pagyra
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I see that you use different length of shadow sprite to show player different height of walls - but apparently its tiles do not differ from each other walls - so maybe it makes sense to make separate tiles for walls with different height - in your current tileset you have 4 pixels of shaded border on each wall tile wich create effect of its height relative to other tiles, you can continue this system and add some wall tiles with fewer pixels on edge to your tileset, so it will be perceived as more higher than other wall - because it seems to be closer to player point of view(camera).
30.12.15 09:45:12 am
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@user Hajt: Haha good to see you too man!

@user omg: Hmm. I think I'm gonna have to make another version then.
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I don't see much of a problem for competitive play since you can't abuse the teleport by moving in one direction, so using it won't give you an advantage. Testing showed that retaking A from Short is more effective anyway.

@user Pagyra: This is one of the things I considered when making the tileset, but I decided against it. While it does look nice and emphasizes the effect of height, I think it might be a problem for gameplay. For example, if I 'lower the height' of the walls around B doors relative to the walls surrounding B, it might make people think they're obstacles. I can try it out anyway, but I don't really have high hopes for it.
Edit: Since you seem to be interested in detail, here's my idea on the shadows in general:
0.2 opacity, 2-4 pixels offset for sprites that act like floors and obstacles (depending on what makes sense and looks good), 24-80 offset for building shadows (it's more difficult to do than using 32-96, but I think it's worth it); As much as I like realism (if that's not too hypocritical to say in CS2D), I don't want extra visuals to distract from gameplay, so I keep it relatively simple.
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30.12.15 11:03:03 am
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Pagyra
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user smn: check my thread for tests: thread cs2d How to add altitude to maps? it may be usefull for you.
30.12.15 03:26:45 pm
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Avo
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You're god damn Picasso. Bloody virtuoso. Waiting impatiently
30.12.15 04:07:33 pm
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user smn's de_dust2 and de_inferno are on [Q] [TAB] CS2D Reborn if you can't wait.

These are the unfinished versions, any new version I receive shall be put online asap.
30.12.15 07:29:53 pm
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Perfect, just played for a while. You should try yourself, guys.
30.12.15 08:22:40 pm
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The only problem is... there shouldn't be teleporters on the maps. They cause too many problems and confusion. E.g. with bots and also with the radar
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30.12.15 08:24:12 pm
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who uses bots anyways these days
but yeah teleports will probably suck anyways
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