English Ben Breedlove - an amazing story

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14.02.12 10:38:42 am
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palomino
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Yes. Because if you were among those thousands, which I hope won't happen to you, and someone told you that he doesn't give a shit about you, you would feel bad.
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14.02.12 11:41:13 am
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user palomino has written:
Yes. Because if you were among those thousands, which I hope won't happen to you, and someone told you that he doesn't give a shit about you, you would feel bad.

This happens because we don't value our health until the moment when we start to lose it.
DC has written:
I don't even have birthday and writing a title in capital letters is stupid. closed.
This was wrote in mrlightcorn's thread "Happy birthday, DC!". So that means that DC does not have a birthday?
14.02.12 12:42:16 pm
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This happens because we don't value our health until the moment when we start to lose it.

As well as the unmissable fact that most of the people here are psychopaths ( in the sense that they cannot relate with the emotions of others ).
14.02.12 02:27:32 pm
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@user Tau: @user EpicCrisis: So, if thousands of others have such a problem, we shouldn't care? Wow, you two are complete assholes.


I'm not saying we shouldn't care, it's simply that I don't see anything so outstanding about this person that could be able to cast a shadow on all the other people that die, cease to exist. If we were serious about unrelated people dying, we should spread our grief equally among all of these people. If you are just cherry-picking, you are essentially a hypocrite.

I totally agree that by the very most standards, dying people are a terrible thing, and thus we should do anything and everything possible to prevent these deaths.

In this light, it's astounding, upsetting, terrifying to see that in relative numbers, very few people are doing work aimed to prevent human death, not simply postpone it for some decades, but to avoid it altogether. No, what happened to this Ben is not special or outstanding in any way, but yes, it is terribly sad, even on its own. But if you really want to get a grasp of what is going on, you have to shut up and multiply. Fates like Bens happen daily, but not tenfold, not hundredfold, not thousandfold, not tenthousandfold, more than one-hundred-thousand-fold! We can't even imagine the amount of tragedy that is happening right now, and neither can you emotionally care about all of these dying people. They are just too many.

Do you agree that we should take all necessary steps to end this wound in the world that we call death?

If you do not, you are basically a hypocrite. And don't say anything along the lines of "but death has benefits after all, doesn't it?" No, it doesn't. Not in our age. Death doesn't create space for new life that we couldn't create ourselves, who even says this new life is better than the old one? Death is cruel, and in my opinion we shouldn't just tolerate it. We should fight it. And even if we do not succeed, the next generation will end it, or the one after that. We better speed up and start now, because every day lost equals 150,000 people,

not injured,

not exiled,

but lost

forever.







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user Silent_Control has written:
This happens because we don't value our health until the moment when we start to lose it.


As well as the unmissable fact that most of the people here are psychopaths ( in the sense that they cannot relate with the emotions of others ).


Is there anything bad about this? Do you think these people are inferior for not being guided by emotions but seeking for a different lantern to light their way?
14.02.12 04:31:22 pm
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user Tau has written:
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user Silent_Control has written:
This happens because we don't value our health until the moment when we start to lose it.


As well as the unmissable fact that most of the people here are psychopaths ( in the sense that they cannot relate with the emotions of others ).


Is there anything bad about this? Do you think these people are inferior for not being guided by emotions but seeking for a different lantern to light their way?


Well, if you like to judge by numbers:

The movie (1st part) had 6,608,855 views
with 41,823 √ and 1,160 ×
and ~26000 comments. About 80% of the people that posted a comment were shaken by Ben's story.

And at his funeral, about 1500 human beings were present. People who weren't related in any way to Ben.
DC has written:
I don't even have birthday and writing a title in capital letters is stupid. closed.
This was wrote in mrlightcorn's thread "Happy birthday, DC!". So that means that DC does not have a birthday?
14.02.12 04:51:26 pm
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user Tau has written:
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user Silent_Control has written:
This happens because we don't value our health until the moment when we start to lose it.


As well as the unmissable fact that most of the people here are psychopaths ( in the sense that they cannot relate with the emotions of others ).


Is there anything bad about this? Do you think these people are inferior for not being guided by emotions but seeking for a different lantern to light their way?

Yes, there is a lot that is bad about this. Emotions are what make us human. If someone is completely emotionally disconnected, they do not have the gene that makes us human. The thing is, the majority of people here appear to be under the age of eleven, and cannot understand ANYTHING they are told. They do not seek "another lantern to light their way." They do not understand which way they are even going. Let lone the lighting method. ( ) Though I do see your point about one person being no less important in death than the other. After all, "mortem scit non nomina."
14.02.12 05:18:29 pm
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user Tau has written:
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user Silent_Control has written:
This happens because we don't value our health until the moment when we start to lose it.


As well as the unmissable fact that most of the people here are psychopaths ( in the sense that they cannot relate with the emotions of others ).


Is there anything bad about this? Do you think these people are inferior for not being guided by emotions but seeking for a different lantern to light their way?


Well, if you like to judge by numbers:

The movie (1st part) had 6,608,855 views
with 41,823 √ and 1,160 ×
and ~26000 comments. About 80% of the people that posted a comment were shaken by Ben's story.

And at his funeral, about 1500 human beings were present. People who weren't related in any way to Ben.


What follows, then? That Ben is special in any extraordinary way?

user DannyDeth has written:
Emotions are what make us human. If someone is completely emotionally disconnected, they do not have the gene that makes us human.


There surely is much more to humans than their puny emotions.
14.02.12 05:28:12 pm
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Nope, there isn't. Without the emotions we have, nothing would have ever been done by the human race. No book written, no thesis protested, no discovery made. What drives us forward and makes us want to carry on living are our emotions. Without emotion, we wouldn't be human.
14.02.12 06:01:30 pm
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@user Tau: He is special in a way that he dies at a young age. You don't. If you aren't affected by it in any way, then please, take my advice and go die in a corner.
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14.02.12 06:18:34 pm
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DannyDeth
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Thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of people die at a young age. No one is special.
14.02.12 06:20:22 pm
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user DannyDeth has written:
No one is special.

Well. You all know what I want to say ;3
14.02.12 06:22:39 pm
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user Yates has written:
Well. You all know what I want to say ;3

You would say, "WTF? MY MOMMY SAYS I'M SPECIAL!!"
14.02.12 06:23:25 pm
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We have a WINRAR!
14.02.12 06:41:43 pm
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lol.
Actually everyone is special.
A thousand may fall at your side, ten thousand at your right hand, but it will not come near you. You will only look with your eyes and see the recompense of the wicked. - Psalm 91:7-8 ESV
14.02.12 06:52:24 pm
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user Infinite Rain has written:
Actually everyone is special.

That is what they want you to think.
14.02.12 07:03:36 pm
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@user Tau: He is special in a way that he dies at a young age. You don't. If you aren't affected by it in any way, then please, take my advice and go die in a corner.


But then, if I went and died in a corner, would I then be special? More than a metaphorical speck of dust? Can you see your fallacy now?

I don't envy Ben at all. His story is sad. It's just not especially sad. People verbally jerking off to his fate just show that they don't understand how this game works.

user DannyDeth has written:
Nope, there isn't. Without the emotions we have, nothing would have ever been done by the human race. No book written, no thesis protested, no discovery made. What drives us forward and makes us want to carry on living are our emotions. Without emotion, we wouldn't be human.


That, of course, depends on what you call an emotion and what else you are talking about when talking about human minds.

You could of course say "everything humans are are emotions, by definition", but a sound argument doesn't work that way. When I, for one, am talking about emotions, I am mostly talking about things like disgust, anger, happiness and love - forgive me if I have left out a few things. These are things that can let people forget thinking, acting strangely and biased, not in a manner that would get them what they want or approve of. Most don't have control over their emotions or are able to reflect on them, but simply use it as a tool for reasoning, which is ridiculous.

Humans high on emotion are something similar to a black box, at least to me, it's a mechanism that, when given x, outputs y, and you can try and predict y, even understand how the black box works and perhaps predict their behaviour pretty well, but the question about the reason for how the mechanism works, the "why-question", doesn't seem to have a sensible answer - other than, of course, a view from evolutionary psychology.

Oh, and here's a point that I have to make about the videos: Do you notice what kind of effect the music has on you? Did you see how the person in the video occasionally looks to the side, probably on a computer monitor, where probably, a "script" is written? Did you notice the facial expressions Ben seems to make on purpose? They look artificial. And last but not least, did you look at his name? "Ben Breedlove", c'mon, that's ridiculously obvious.

If I were trying to manipulate a large audience into believing a story I wanted to tell them, that'd be my course of action.
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14.02.12 07:04:53 pm
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They say that life is short but wide.
It's a shame that Ben's life was even shorter and it wasn't that wide either.
I just hope he could live his life at it's fullest.
14.02.12 11:48:24 pm
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Ben had a chance to fight to live.

Kids in Africa dont have the chance to live the life in full potential.

Today a US kid will cry cuz hes net. is slower than usual, the kid in Africa wont cry cuz he doesnt have the time for that probably cuz he is trying to survive starvation.

If your IQ is to small and dont understand life isnt fair to anyone and everyone is puted to a life test in one or other way.Before you try to comment to this "useless" thread on how about you are sad and touched by this story remember that a bilion ppl. are dying.

I really don't care, many of my relatives or ppl. that i know dyed cuz of some stupid sickness or shit like that so even if it is sad, it aint.

He's dead get over it!
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15.02.12 10:09:07 am
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user dENd has written:
He's dead so get over it!


That's my man right there.
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15.02.12 12:23:39 pm
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omg ok we get it he died its sad but lets get over it and detroy this thread
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