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Lys
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Everybody has a liver from birth, you make no sense.

If you were capable of reading, you'd know that that is exactly what I wrote.

user Alistaire has written
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Alcohol or Ethanol isn't in all consumed things.

I did not say that. But there are a lot of things our body can't make use of and some of them are not good for our body, but as most things in small doses do little harm, that doesn't matter. Ever wondered what your feces are made of?

user Alistaire has written
People still drink it because in the Dark Ages it was used to control the huge ammounts of peasants. Religion was used aswell, and monks brewed beer.

Well, don't know where you got that shit from, but I (and many others) drink because we enjoy it. It makes you more loose, talkative and so on. Ever tried it?

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YOUR TOLERANCE TO ALCOHOL DOES NOT GET HIGHER.

Actually, it does. It's not increasing like you can drink 500 beers one day, but if you give someone 6 beers to drink, who never drank in his life, he'll feel drunk. Give it to someone who drinks a bottle of Wodka every weekend and he will barely feel anything.

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Also, your liver DOES NOT APPROVE of alcohol in any way. If you drink more alcohol you're not immune to it IN ANY WAY.

I didn't say that either. It's just that it's getting more used to it. It's still bad of course, but I thought that was clear.

So next time, please make sure you even understand what other people say before you try to prove them wrong.

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You really make no sense to try to argue with me.

- I am capable of reading and YOU think he was talking about a liver, which could not be what he was talking about because e.g he talked about something you got at your 21st, idk what it is anyways.

- You said there are a lot of poisonous things in food and that's what your liver is for, to filter poison. Alcohol isn't filtered by your liver.

- Are you actually fucking dumb that you don't believe medieval lords used alcohol to control the crowd? Also, alcohol is poison imho as you might see when you read the stuff I write.

- People who drink a bottle of Wodka every weekend? Wow hardcore. Not. Also, people who never drank that shit in their lives will die from 6 beers.

- Well you might think you're getting used to it but it's like what Roman emperors did. Drank poison daily so they wouldn't get poisoned from it. It might work with small ammounts but you'd die from daily base, because poison STACKS in your liver, it doesn't fucking go out with your urine bro.

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It makes you more loose, talkative and so on.

About the "talkative" and "loose", does someone really needs to fuck his organs with poison for simply acting the same way you could without anything or looking cool to your little friends? I do not consider myself talkative, but i am usually loose, i don't drink and i would ever be dependent of something that actually kills you - plain stupidity.

Still stupidity is present on the world more than anything - as you can see on the OP's video.

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I am capable of reading and YOU think he was talking about a liver, which could not be what he was talking about because e.g he talked about something you got at your 21st

user Lys has written
Are you talking about liver, the organ? If yes, [...]

Hard to miss, right?
user Alistaire has written
Alcohol isn't filtered by your liver.

True, part of it actually streams in your blood.
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Are you actually fucking dumb that you don't believe medieval lords used alcohol to control the crowd?

Which time do we live in? Plus I certainly did not get taught this while during history. Of course they drunk it, yet to control a crowd. It's a bit sketchy.
user Alistaire has written
Also, people who never drank that shit in their lives will die from 6 beers.

Can't tell if sarcasm or stupid.
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poison STACKS in your liver, it doesn't fucking go out with your urine bro.

What the fuck? Seriously? Which school teaches you biology, because this is just fucking wrong. It DOES go out in your urine, bro. And it most certainly does not STACK and sit there for the rest of your life.
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You really make no sense to try to argue with me.

I can see that... One last attempt to make your mind up.

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- I am capable of reading and YOU think he was talking about a liver, which could not be what he was talking about because e.g he talked about something you got at your 21st, idk what it is anyways.

Yes sir, I understood that. But... Now comes the question: What is it, if it's not the liver? I took a guess, which would be the most logical thing, as he was maybe just not aware of the name.
But dear Alistaire, I hope you do know that your body doesn't give a shit whether you're 21 or not? Your body doesn't really count that way. That's why people grow differently. If you didn't know.

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- You said there are a lot of poisonous things in food and that's what your liver is for, to filter poison. Alcohol isn't filtered by your liver.

Not completely, that is correct. But like 95% of it is being processed by your liver.

user Alistaire has written
- Are you actually fucking dumb that you don't believe medieval lords used alcohol to control the crowd? Also, alcohol is poison imho as you might see when you read the stuff I write.

Well, again I'm asking for a source of that claim. Calling me dumb isn't really nice either, I just don't believe every shit some fuckin idiot tells me, like you apparently do. But if you can give me a reliable source (except from your trustful words of course), I might be able to think about it again.

user Alistaire has written
- People who drink a bottle of Wodka every weekend? Wow hardcore. Not. Also, people who never drank that shit in their lives will die from 6 beers.

No man. If that was true, I died like 6 years ago. But as far as I know, I'm still alive.

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- Well you might think you're getting used to it but it's like what Roman emperors did. Drank poison daily so they wouldn't get poisoned from it. It might work with small ammounts but you'd die from daily base, because poison STACKS in your liver, it doesn't fucking go out with your urine bro.

It doesn't go out? Hell, then I must be drunk 24/7 by now, having probably a 100 promille.

I can only ask you now to take some fuckin' biology lessons and learn something about this topic, or you can keep on listening to some fairy tales about the dark age and the roman empire. Your choice.

Oh and, may I ask, how old you are? Considering your Skype username, I'd say either 14 or 15. But for that age, sorry man, you don't know shit.

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There is a special thing that forms in our body in order to make the reaction between alcohols (the class of chem. substances) and everything else in our body possible (the only alcohol that is accepted by our body is ethanol tho, C2H5OH). This thing usually forms when we reach the age of 21. Tho some people already have it when they are born and some people don't have it formed ever. It's not an illness. Without that thing, the alcohol becomes poison.

What?
Are you talking about liver, the organ? If yes, that with the age 21 and so on is bullshit o.O it's an organ we need to clean our body of poisons that we consume, which are in many consumed things, not only alcohol. After that poison is seperated, it'll go in our bladder until we urinate. Everyone (except for some disabled people, maybe) is born with that. It's just that your liver will get used to ethanol more and more if you consume it regularly, thus your tolerance to alcohol will become higher.
If you mean something different, then please name what this 'thing' is, that 'forms' in our body.

No, not liver. I can't remember then name, it's a substance, not an organ.
@user Alistaire: Erm. No. Substances ending in -ol are alcohols. Not -anol.

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What the fuck? Seriously? Which school teaches you biology, because this is just fucking wrong. It DOES go out in your urine, bro. And it most certainly does not STACK and sit there for the rest of your life.

Drinking can cause the liver to get fat, which deposits in the liver and block the blood supply, keeping them away of oxygen and other essential stuff, eventually killing them.

When the liver cells don't get fresh blood they actually die, being replaced with another material i just forgot the name, that can't work the same way the liver cells do - it's called cirrhosis.

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Drinking can cause the liver to get fat, which deposits in the liver and block the blood supply, keeping them away of oxygen and other essential stuff, eventually killing them.

I don't get why that has anything to do with what I said, other than the subject being liver.

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@user Alistaire: Erm. No. Substances ending in -ol are alcohols. Not -anol.


Eth - anol

Meth = One
Eth = Two
Prop = Three
But = Four
Pent = Five
Hex = Six

Methanol, Ethanol, Propanol, Butanol, Pentanol and Hexanol are alcohols. Please don't start saying shit which you don't know about.

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No, not liver. I can't remember then name, it's a substance, not an organ.

Ah, that gets us a lot closer. I thought of the enzymes responsible for the metabolism of ethanol.
Checking on wikipedia, it brought me to this. And now I know what you mean, I guess you mean people who are intolerant towards alcohol because they lack those enzymes somehow. But I'm quite sure that either you were born with that issue, or you won't have it. I never heard of anyone who started to get tolerant towards alcohol at a certain age, when he had this intolerance before.

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@user Yates: Weed is a drug. Every person reacts differently to drugs. Some people die from drinking alcohol, some die from taking any amount of drugs, including weed.

Yeah, I know this guy that died from eating peanuts. That is why I never eat peanuts, they are Satan's creation.

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I don't get why that has anything to do with what I said, other than the subject being liver.

It doesn't directly have to do with what you said, what i am defending is the fact that drinking CAN kill you, and your body doesn't get resistant to it, but the opposite - it gets weaker.

user palomino has written
@user Alistaire: Erm. No. Substances ending in -ol are alcohols. Not -anol.

Alcohol is a popular name, the correct is Ethanol.

user Lys has written
Well, again I'm asking for a source of that claim.

I don't know if you ever heard of it, but it was called the "Bread and Circus Policy", where the feudal lords actually used diversion, distraction, and satisfaction of the people to control them and have moral backup of the same.
You can actually search it for more "reliable" sources other than "trustful words".

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what i am defending is the fact that drinking CAN kill you

I never denied that fact.
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and your body doesn't get resistant to it, but the opposite - it gets weaker.

I never said anything about this either. So it has absolutely nothing to do with my post.

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I never heard of anyone who started to get tolerant towards alcohol at a certain age, when he had this intolerance before.


You never get 'tolerant' to alcohol. Your brain just gets this fucked up that it doesn't matter if you bomb it again.

See your brains as a city. It grows every year. Then one time you throw grenades at it, it recovers a bit. Then later on you let a bomb explode. It gets heavily struck but keeps recovering. Then you let off a nuclear bomb which destroys every-fucking-thing and it's a wasteland of toxic. People won't live in a wasteland. Doesn't matter if you let shit explode there anymore.

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So it has absolutely nothing to do with my post.

Well, don't mind it then. I am actually not even reading the whole posts anymore since this is getting boring as hell to see people defending such stuff.

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You never get 'tolerant' to alcohol.

You already are from the start, otherwise we wouldn't be able to have it, duh. - Everything has it's effects, we cannot change them.
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You never get 'tolerant' to alcohol.

You already are from the start, otherwise we wouldn't be able to have it, duh.


Yes like people were made to drink poison.

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I don't know if you ever heard of it, but it was called the "Bread and Circus Policy", where the feudal lords actually used diversion, distraction, and satisfaction of the people to control them and have moral backup of the same.
You can actually search it for more "reliable" sources other than "trustful words".

Yeah, know that of course. But he stated it like they only made alcohol and everyone was happy with that and everyone was easily controllable just because of that, and that way it is not really historically correct.

user Alistaire has written
You never get 'tolerant' to alcohol. Your brain just gets this fucked up that it doesn't matter if you bomb it again.

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Your brain just gets this fucked up that it doesn't matter if you bomb it again.

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this fucked up that it doesn't matter if you bomb it again.

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doesn't matter if you bomb it again.

Where's the difference between this and being tolerant?

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Then you let off a nuclear bomb which destroys every-fucking-thing and it's a wasteland of toxic. People won't live in a wasteland. Doesn't matter if you let shit explode there anymore.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBQy6A2N5rM#t=3m45s
Looks like it does.
Spoiler >


Btw, he meant tolerant as getting more tolerant to it, he doesn't need to quote a fact that everyone knows.

user Lys has written
Where's the difference between this and being tolerant?

The difference is that it's already destroyed, that's no tolerance, but some kind of "anesthesia", if you understand me.
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