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15.03.13 09:44:22 pm
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palomino
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Still, I see poverty everyday, and I know that they will not get past delivering newspapers and having way too many fucking babies. Then again, some people are just too fucking stupid to help.

Welfare is just more motivation not to work and have more babies.
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15.03.13 09:51:35 pm
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Still, I see poverty everyday, and I know that they will not get past delivering newspapers and having way too many fucking babies. Then again, some people are just too fucking stupid to help.

Welfare is just more motivation not to work and have more babies.

And what would you say if there is a family with a disabled man, an unqualified woman and three children?
In general I agree with you, but there are also exceptions.
15.03.13 09:55:52 pm
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Still, I see poverty everyday, and I know that they will not get past delivering newspapers and having way too many fucking babies. Then again, some people are just too fucking stupid to help.

Welfare is just more motivation not to work and have more babies.

And what would you say if there is a family with a disabled man, an unqualified woman and three children?
In general I agree with you, but there are also exceptions.

Right-wing libertarianism is based on high moral standards. The only people to be supported are the old, the ill and the young. Unqualified people are in most cases the ones to blame for them being unqualified.
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15.03.13 10:03:43 pm
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Still, I see poverty everyday, and I know that they will not get past delivering newspapers and having way too many fucking babies. Then again, some people are just too fucking stupid to help.

Welfare is just more motivation not to work and have more babies.

And what would you say if there is a family with a disabled man, an unqualified woman and three children?
In general I agree with you, but there are also exceptions.

Right-wing libertarianism is based on high moral standards. The only people to be supported are the old, the ill and the young. Unqualified people are in most cases the ones to blame for them being unqualified.

But the family in this case would need help, even if the woman could work.
15.03.13 10:09:55 pm
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@user -tony316-: yes, the family would receive enough to live. Not to own a 2-story house and drive a $40k car, but be able to pay the rent and eat every day.
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16.03.13 10:26:00 am
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Welfare is just more motivation not to work and have more babies.


I'm for A-grade education more than giving them money. Paying for a university education here in ZA requires most people to get loans, which is unfair because getting loans requires a good credit record, which is hard to get when you can barely afford food. I must emphasize that I'm not communistic and money in my perfect state would only be given to those who are disadvantaged and only for certain things. I wasn't all the way to the left.
16.03.13 10:33:35 am
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palomino
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Welfare is just more motivation not to work and have more babies.


I'm for A-grade education more than giving them money. Paying for a university education here in ZA requires most people to get loans, which is unfair because getting loans requires a good credit record, which is hard to get when you can barely afford food. I must emphasize that I'm not communistic and money in my perfect state would only be given to those who are disadvantaged and only for certain things. I wasn't all the way to the left.

Your views are similar to our conservative party They are pro-free education but against welfare and all that.
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16.03.13 10:38:33 am
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DannyDeth
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@user palomino:
We should band together for the better of humanity! May politics rest forever in peace.
16.03.13 11:48:31 am
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palomino
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@user DannyDeth: Sure.

But to be honest, I am for scholarships only. Higher education should be free only to those who have a good academic record or are good sportsmen, or artists. Not those who will waste the government's money.
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16.03.13 11:50:07 am
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Free basic education, free tertiary education for those who have promising futures. Seems legit.
16.03.13 12:28:47 pm
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Free basic education, free tertiary education for those who have promising futures. Seems legit.

Yeah, I mean, why not? If that wasn't sarcasm, of course.
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16.03.13 01:49:26 pm
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No sarcasm at all.
16.03.13 04:50:45 pm
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MeatMagicianHDS
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I'm not one for joining this debate.

My compass, however, will not upload to my media site, so I'll just post my coordinates.

(-4.7, -6.6)
Humanity somehow stood up on its mutated feet/Reeling with pride, man just would not accept his defeat/Into the missiles, deadly disease, and poison gas/Launching them off, terracidal journey kills the last...
17.03.13 04:35:02 am
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What's up with all the leftists here? Oh right. Those kids have never experienced socialism. Oh well.


Funny, how you in the first post you said

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Don't be ashamed of the results either, it's what you believe in, you have the right to believe in whatever the fuck you wish.


and yet you say our opinion is wrong


However, here is my compass
IMG:http://s7.directupload.net/images/130317/2ogiecr3.png

Pretty much what I expected.
-2,38 and -4,26
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17.03.13 05:11:41 am
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Mother Russia changed me
http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-5.38&soc=2.36
(a link because the image was f***ed up)

6 years later: ec=-7.0&soc=-3.18 (also hi future me or employer or political opressor. you know who you are working for)
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17.03.13 08:14:04 am
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Almost the same with Alex.

Finally. Can you post a pic too?

It's same as yours.
17.03.13 11:28:20 am
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What's up with all the leftists here? Oh right. Those kids have never experienced socialism. Oh well.


Funny, how you in the first post you said

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Don't be ashamed of the results either, it's what you believe in, you have the right to believe in whatever the fuck you wish.


and yet you say our opinion is wrong

Where did I say your opinion was wrong there? Please, point me to the part that states that.
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17.03.13 12:42:19 pm
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thegreentaxi
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You don't say it directly. But:

We have never experienced socialism > If we would have, our opinion would be different > Our opinion right now only exists because of lack of experience > Our opinion is wrong

Sorry if I misunderstood something, but thats how it sounded to me
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17.03.13 01:46:47 pm
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palomino
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You don't say it directly. But:

We have never experienced socialism > If we would have, our opinion would be different > Our opinion right now only exists because of lack of experience > Our opinion is wrong

Sorry if I misunderstood something, but thats how it sounded to me

Sure, I think it's wrong but it's nothing to be ashamed of.
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04.05.14 06:17:54 pm
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I thought I'd bump this thread after coming across the political compass thing again.
IMG:http://i.imgur.com/af579jm.png?1


I'm much more anarchist than previously, probably due to my involvement in Zabalaza, a local anarcho-communist movement. Here's a quick explanation of what the dimensions mean:
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I believe Communism is a direct extension to Anarchism. By acknowledging that you truly own nothing, that it is just an illusion formed by the mind, you will see that any ownership should be an affair where you take care and use something to the betterment of society, not where you own it and may therefore do whatever pleases you with it.
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