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The ruling party of Ukraine, Party of the Regions, is aligned with the ruling party of Russia, Putin's United Russia; both are known for being corrupted to the core.
One of the points of the Regions' programme, that helped them gain an upper hand in Ukrainian politics, was the promise to make EU - Ukrainian relations better. Two months ago the government refused to sign the EU - Ukraine association agreement and instead went on to discuss partnership with Russia. Hundreds of thousands of people organized peaceful demonstrations demanding the signing of the EU association agreement, the elimination of corruption in government. The opposition was led by UDAR (former boxer's Vitali Klitschko's liberal party), Svoboda (Freedom in English, Ukranian nationalist, conservative party) and Fatherland (Yulia Tymoshenko's liberal conservative party).
Less than a week ago the Ukrainian government passed laws outlawing protests, effectively making the hundreds of thousands peaceful protesters criminals. Another law passed enabled security forces to use firearms loaded with real, not rubber, bullets against protesters.
Several protesters and foreign journalists were taken by the police and beaten, some died.
Once the laws were passed, several thousand protesters geared up, armed themselves with homemade weaponry, firearms, molotov cocktails and began to fight back. Some even use fireworks to burn the police officers.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/22/kiev-burning-photos_n_4645024.html

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It's a pity that there is no way to change a system without causing complete chaos first. One might think of this as a country's puberty.

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I hope civils will win this war

PETROL + STYROFOAM = NAPALM!!! - blend it to receive sticky liquid.

POWERFULL FIREWORK + SMALL ROCKS or METAL BALLS from one side = CLAYMORE

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It's a pity that there is no way to change a system without causing complete chaos first. One might think of this as a country's puberty.

There would be, if the gov't didn't provoke the people. Only Yulia is supporting the rioters, UDAR and Svoboda want it to be peaceful. But outlawing protest and giving cops the right to shoot the demonstrators was clearly a provocation. I bet the gov't didn't expect such a response though.

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If the government is tyrannic of course there'll be riots. I just wish the government in Ukraine would stop violating human rights by being "partly free" they should instead be simply "free". If they seek true independence that's what I'd do by not following the soviet super power's footsteps by violating human rights. Belarus is in a worse condition however, so I admire Ukraine a bit too for being at least "partly free" but that is not enough according to human rights watch.

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About provocations in the Ukraine:

So that's what someone is posting like it's snipers from the government (shooting people) http://nstarikov.ru/new/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/F80mldyQKBU.jpg

And that here is what tineye is telling us about the "picture from Ukraine"
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53753604/web/uploads/unrealsoftware.de/367650/tineye.jpg
2010. Eh. Are the snipers travelling in time? And by the way: That tweet is no longer avaible: link

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This article is really not trustworthy. Apart from a poorly-written structure and name calling, see this:

С уважением, Андрей Бородавка, гражданин Украины, капитан запаса.

It was written by a Reserve Captain. This is an article written by a cop.

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This article is really not trustworthy. Apart from a poorly-written structure and name calling, see this:

С уважением, Андрей Бородавка, гражданин Украины, капитан запаса.

It was written by a Reserve Captain. This is an article written by a cop.

Hm, didn't noticed it, thanks.
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