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slojanko
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Hello everybody,

as you've probably seen, Conunter strike 2D has been hit with an army of childish hackers. They not only ruin the game, not listen to you but also make the whole game worse for everyone playing it! I had some tolerance towards hackers about 1 hour ago but then "...." decided to block me and only me on my every step with walls. It really pisses me off that an amazing online game get's ruined because of hackers and the lack of proper protection against them.

Now I am going to propose a few ideas, all of which go to the developers/admins (?). Remember that whatever you decide will have consequences.
List of things you could change/add:
- Get active/trusted users to be able to kick on any server like ME. I am not doing this only for me, I want everyone to play this game as it SHOULD BE PLAYED!
- Upgrade the protection on servers

I strongly advise you take actions as soon as possible!

Edit: I've been playing this game for over a year now, and it hasn't been a day without seeing a hacker, unless I didn't have time to play the game.

Slojanko

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slojanko
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I don't want to offend anyone with what I'm gonna say, but you're doing a F#$%ing terrible job!

That's just my opinion and what I experienced playing this game.

Slojanko

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@user slojanko:
And you're F#$%ing retarded for listening to user who registered 13 days ago.

Play on servers that are actually administrated, and stop blaming author of cs2d for existence of cheaters. How a single game developer can protect his game from hackers while other big companies can't protect their well?

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@user mafia_man:

I think that he has reason. On other years, I've seen many players who can kick in all servers, but now, I don't see it.

I always play with hacks on all fcking servers. Not 1 or 2, 5 hacks per server.

And it says an user from 2010, but playind since 2009.

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I always play with hacks on all fcking servers. Not 1 or 2, 5 hacks per server.

This is one of those situations in which proper spelling can save lifes (or in this case accounts).

user DC can barely do anything. And if he would try something, I can assure you, hackers will find a way around it. There's always a way. That's not worth user DC's time and effort. Just leave it to the admins of the servers, like user mafia_man said, play on well administrated servers and you will encounter less cheaters. Unless the admins are full of shit and use their rcon powers to legally cheat. Those suck.

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@user slojanko:
And you're F#$%ing retarded for listening to user who registered 13 days ago.

Play on servers that are actually administrated, and stop blaming author of cs2d for existence of cheaters. How a single game developer can protect his game from hackers while other big companies can't protect their well?


League of Legends cant be hacked

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mafia_man
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@user SmD:
You're retarded there are bots and shit that help you during battle or make you ref points or whatever it's called.

I've been helping my friend with this shit, that's how I know that, and I never played League of Legends.

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@user mafia_man: These stupid RP-Generators do not work. Everything is server sided.

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Damage calculations are done server side, and the only thing passed to the client is need to know. Assuming you forge a packet saying "Hey guy, I actually dealt 6000 damage with Annie's Q at level 1", it would say "lol, no you didn't."

The only "hacks" are going to modify things that don't matter too terrible much, such as autotargeting or increased map zoom.
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mafia_man
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@user SmD:
Look at this http://www.emubot.tk/setup.php

You'll need a decent computer with minimum 16GB RAM, dedicated SSD for virtual machines and fast processor minimum 4 cores.

I found a way to speed things up for this, but I am not going to share that information with anyone, because my friend is using it to gain profit on this.

Also I was talking about bots not hacks.

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@user mafia_man:

So you can level up your account to lvl 5-15 and you can get a 3 days XP Boost. Well that are not really big changes which can be count as an unfair advantage (ingame ofc).

Btw. what is "Automatic summoner setup"?

Oh and if im right the thing which is shown in the tutorial where the enemies are not moving is known as "Drophack". (Got fixed already)

Well i dont saw ANY hacker in LoL yet.
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@user ohaz: My god thats reeeeally old. You would understand me if you would play LoL by yourself. Meeting a hacker in LoL is like... seeing a double rainbow, all the way across the sky...

Btw. this is not possible anymore.

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@user SmD: I do play LoL. Just in case you didn't know. And yes, you really don't see hackers often. But there are bots (especially the Cassiopeia bot that has been used for farm Elo on a lot of servers) and the game has to fight a lot of Elo boosting. Different problems, again no solution for it. Stopping hackers is hard. It's really hard.

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@user SmD:(especially the Cassiopeia bot that has been used for farm Elo on a lot of servers)


Havent heard about this yet. ;o Well yes i dont wanted to say that there are totally no hackers in LoL or thats impossible to hack LoL but there is anyway a big difference between LoL and other games.

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@user slojanko:
And you're F#$%ing retarded for listening to user who registered 13 days ago.

Play on servers that are actually administrated, and stop blaming author of cs2d for existence of cheaters. How a single game developer can protect his game from hackers while other big companies can't protect their well?


Do you think I don't play on "trusted" servers? If not, then you must think I join a server meant for hackers. And what if the only good zombie server has almost no active administrators on it. People still play it and have to deal with hackers.

This is why I'm proposing a global administrator, someone who has admin privileges and can kick from any server and MAYBE even IP ban someone from the whole game - this should be temporary.

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user SmokeeWeeD has written
I always play with hacks on all fcking servers. Not 1 or 2, 5 hacks per server.

This is one of those situations in which proper spelling can save lifes (or in this case accounts).

user DC can barely do anything. And if he would try something, I can assure you, hackers will find a way around it. There's always a way. That's not worth user DC's time and effort. Just leave it to the admins of the servers, like user mafia_man said, play on well administrated servers and you will encounter less cheaters. Unless the admins are full of shit and use their rcon powers to legally cheat. Those suck.


Like I said above, good servers don't necessarily mean many admins but they are fun to play in as long as there aren't any hackers in it.

Please understand I am only trying to help this game have less hackers.

Slojanko

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A thread about this topic is opened every few weeks / months and it is justified because hackers are indeed a huge issue. The point however is, that there's not much we could do about it. You can search the forum to find my previous statements about this. In short: I already invested a lot of time but all this time was basically just wasted in the end because hackers always find a way to disable/trick every (client side) protection and it is simply not possible to reliably check everything on the server.

So it's probably the best solution to play on a server with "U.S.G.N. only" enabled and active admins on it who kickban cheaters. Or on a server with honest players who know to to votekick.

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slojanko
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Well seeing as how you don't plan to do anything about this, I'm done playing this game. I should have figured that there would be nothing done against hackers.

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user DC has written
A thread about this topic is opened every few weeks / months and it is justified because hackers are indeed a huge issue. The point however is, that there's not much we could do about it. You can search the forum to find my previous statements about this. In short: I already invested a lot of time but all this time was basically just wasted in the end because hackers always find a way to disable/trick every (client side) protection and it is simply not possible to reliably check everything on the server.

So it's probably the best solution to play on a server with "U.S.G.N. only" enabled and active admins on it who kickban cheaters. Or on a server with honest players who know to to votekick.


You could at least change the fog of war mechanism.. E.g. don't update movement (send location) of players who can not be seen, limit the information that is available to clients. Just handle a little bit more on the serverside (speedhack detection)

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@user slojanko I wouldn't call them hackers, just some skids that use hacks made by others.
If you play on servers that have a good and active administration, there shouldn't be any hackers. Unless you're a guy that plays on servers like C4?
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