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16.11.15 01:52:23 pm
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user Black Wolf has written:
Leiche, still, if isis follows quran, why r they breaking do much rules

Wars start to follow a purpose. Rules may be broken in order to foresee that purpose. Well, that's what the people think which start wars which is utterly retarded but hey that's life.

ISIS will do whatever to ensure they get what they want, if killing a few muslims for their "greater good" is the way to go then hey fuck it they'll do it man they will even blow themselves up. So do you really think they care?
16.11.15 02:34:55 pm
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user Black Wolf has written:
Leiche, still, if isis follows quran, why r they breaking do much rules

Wars start to follow a purpose. Rules may be broken in order to foresee that purpose. Well, that's what the people think which start wars which is utterly retarded but hey that's life.

ISIS will do whatever to ensure they get what they want, if killing a few muslims for their "greater good" is the way to go then hey fuck it they'll do it man they will even blow themselves up. So do you really think they care?


i'm a muslim...i think he right...
ISIS have been out from quran way
maybe ISIS want to start a war..
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16.11.15 07:59:40 pm
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@user Leiche: Listen this; *click*
16.11.15 10:46:16 pm
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My condolences to these people that have been lost any family member's, and those who are in that situation, starting by Frenchs.
16.11.15 10:50:28 pm
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user SeanHoca has written:
@user Leiche: Listen this; *click*

Holy fuck, all I said was that ISIS follows the same book as you (they just interpret it in a completely different way), that there ARE verses and sections in said book dedicated to warfare and the behavior towards "disbelivers", and you basically accuse me of hate speech.
You won't find a single "All muslims are murderers." sentence in my posts.
So start reading and maybe think before you heatedly jump into a discussion you are going to lose.
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16.11.15 11:24:39 pm
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@user Leiche:

Well, lets finish this...
(everyone has their own opinion...)

I'm done. Have a nice day.
My condolences to the who lost their family members.
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16.11.15 11:29:35 pm
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@user SeanHoca: That makes no sense, at all. Stop using the No True Scotsman fallacy. They are muslims, deal with it. It's understandable that you don't wanna associate with these people, but you can't just change the definition of a word because of your opinions and feelings.

Edit:
His post said "ISIS members follow the Quran, but they are not muslims."

That's no opinion, that's an invalid factual statement.
Wash your hands! :­)
16.11.15 11:52:43 pm
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@user Seekay: Well, I edited the post because I knew someone will post something like your post.

Whatever.
There is no actual proof of that they're *real* muslims.
They have the "Allahu Akbar" word and... what?
Some quotes from Quran is not going to change this.

(this topic needs to be closed...)
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I hope that the Mods/Admins close this topic soon before it turns into a religious flamewar.
17.11.15 12:42:28 am
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user SeanHoca has written:
(this topic needs to be closed...)
c0iL has written:
I hope that the Mods/Admins close this topic soon before it turns into a religious flamewar.


There was no Flamewar so the thread stays open for other users.
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17.11.15 12:46:16 am
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@user SeanHoca: Please stop applying bold to everything you say, it doesn't make your statements deeper or more sincere, it just makes reading them a bit annoying. You don't need to emphasize words or sentences because everyone reads the same way as you do.

I think you're relentlessly denying that ISIS follows the same book as you do because you think it would mean Muslims are terrorists.
But calm down, because that's not how it works. Apples are fruits, but fruits aren't apples. Apples are just a very tiny percentage of fruits.
Just replace apples with ISIS and fruits with Muslims, then it makes sense now. Nobody here is saying that fruits are apples.

Also, trying to get the thread closed just because people don't agree with you is a little selfish and unwise. People don't just agree with each other at all times. That's why discussions and arguments are there to settle these disagreements.
17.11.15 08:27:11 am
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Russian Airliner Crashes in Egypt, Killing 224

I did not see your words of sympathy or even reports of this event in this forum.

The victims - all innocent people, regardless of passport, skin color, religion or religious affiliation; All victims, wounded and their loved ones - I really feel sorry for them and their families. Simply and sincerely, without any "buts" and "ifs".

And anyway I do not think that it was a random event.
Not long ago, France, represented by Sarkozy and later by Hollande with a smirk on his face and bravado in his eyes destroying Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Syria, Yemen, Afghanistan, Iraq ... When they shouting "Bravo!" with tenderly happy smiles after next beacon of democracy, after each bloody Sabbath in another country, after victims of "Arab Spring", and if there's part of population or government which refused (because they are "ancient" folks!) voluntarily to go under knife to Islamists and dont want to break up its primitive communal state - as was in Libya and Syria - then they came there with "aid" to help them "find their way to democracy" - with bombs, soldiers and with support most inhuman, cannibalistic terrorist groups in this country.
When instead of correcting these already made mistakes under stupid bleating of Hollande and Merkel - of openness, fundamental principles of tolerance and a certain "European debt" they began to take crowd in Schengen area for a "Syrian" refugees from Albania, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, and Libya ...and of course there were Syrians among them, too. Accepted as is - tolerantly accepted - no checks, no passport control, and even without mandatory in such cases, fingerprinting and census "orphaned so poor" (at least from instinct of self-preservation), especially if among vast majority were young bearded men, suspiciously often remember Allah.
Finally, when after January terrorist thriller with participation of brothers Kuashi(them calmly rolled through Paris with a RPG launcher and yelled "Allahu Akbar") not done any sort of practical conclusions. Instead, once again followed by blah blah blah slogans of national unity from "system" of French politics.
I do not want and will not compare number of victims and extent to which "right" or "wrong", or a more or less tolerant monsters killed any innocent people of Paris and blew more than two hundred twenty passengers and crew of "Kogalymavia." But I want to and I will compare attitude of others(and your too) to dead and living people(victims or guilty those responsible for what is going). I have this right. So I do not "Charly", not a Parisian, not a Frenchman. Therefore, either today or tomorrow, I will not dye my photo in color of flag of France or put a dark background and candles. While I understand that those who do so, consider it necessary to do so - and also have every right to do. Not for me to judge them. And I have nothing to blame them if their grief and empathy French sincere and genuine.
But here's what I want to say to all, not as a board, and as an opinion that can be heard or ignored. Before publicly mourn together with French, along with Paris, remember how you reacted to death of Russian airliner, my countrymen. This two events are similar in meaning, but that most of you have responded differently.
And last thing I want to say - Yes, I'll wait for a new release of this idiotic project "Charly Ebdo." In editorial "Charly Ebdo" said that is not going to ignore attacks in Paris, which occurred on night of November 14th. Editor in Chief said that new caricatures on subject are already being prepared. Editorial Charlie Ebdo does not intend to make an exception for some events that occur in world so funny caricatures of terrorist attacks in France will be in new issue. We hope that caricature of events in Paris, will significantly improve circulation of Charly Ebdo said Gerard Briard.
Well, as long as surviving Charly preparing PR on blood compatriots and rubbing their hands in public on future growth of circulation, I will wait for reaction to all this French, wait quietly and without mockery. If they will again be "Charly" and as one will again be full of "ebdo", so this story does not teach them anything. Even its own.
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17.11.15 12:06:40 pm
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J192 has written:
Please stop applying bold to everything you say, it doesn't make your statements deeper or more sincere

I wasn't trying to make my statements deeper. I just like the look of it.

J192 has written:
Also, trying to get the thread closed just because people don't agree with you is a little selfish and unwise. People don't just agree with each other at all times. That's why discussions and arguments are there to settle these disagreements.

You're right. Sorry pal.
17.11.15 12:11:16 pm
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@user Pagyra: Bigger news tends to make people forget about any other news. I pretty much forgot that ever happened, but it was on the news every day until what happened in Paris. You can't blame people from moving their attention to something else, we're human - it's life.

And to be honest, these plane crashes are getting a bit old. It's what, the 6th time in the last 2 years now? People don't tend to remember repetitive happenings unless the event has direct influence on the person.

With that being said, it still sucks what has happened. But life moves on, and so must we all. Give it a week and I bet you no one remembers this any more. It's just like the thread about Japan.
17.11.15 06:43:36 pm
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Leiche, we are just repeating ourselves. These verses are meant to timeline when Muhammad lived in hard times or it means in future. Like 8:12, it means what happens after death.
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19.11.15 11:58:31 am
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Anonymous declared (cyber) war to the ISIS.
(1-2 days ago?)

*link*
19.11.15 02:21:17 pm
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user SeanHoca, Cyber war to ISIS ? What do you mean ? Like fight ISIS by insult them in facebook ?
I have a potato internet
19.11.15 03:07:01 pm
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@user DaisukeOno: You know, closing websites, twitter-facebook accounts... etc. etc.
19.11.15 03:22:06 pm
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@user SeanHoca: I believe that taking down their websites would do more harm than good.
19.11.15 05:06:55 pm
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@user J192:
Maybe, but don't forget the big picture.
They're not only targeting accounts and shit.

19.11.15 06:37:34 pm
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user SeanHoca has written:
They're not only targeting accounts and shit.

Indeed. They are just gathering lists of suspended accounts and putting in randomly generated usernames which have never even existed.

Good job, "Anonymous." - I bet ISIS is scared √
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