What makes a good map?
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Hell, that didn't work at all.
So I'm wondering what you guys think elements are necessary for a good map.
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CS2D General What makes a good map?Hell, that didn't work at all.
So I'm wondering what you guys think elements are necessary for a good map.
EDIT: http://www.unrealsoftware.de/forum_posts.php?post=120801&start=60
Great maps are simple but interesting and they must be unique.
If you want an popular map, you should stick the following rules:
Make an great map (some players prefer, a good map design (nade bouncing, tactical shooting), others like good graphics
Host it on a server with a good connection and tell your friends the should play on this server, so there are at least 6 players on the server
other players will join this server and play your map.
If the they like it and they host server thereself, there is a chance that they host your map themself and it gets spreaded all over the world
avoid narrow ways (they should be at least two tiles wide) don't make your map so big that you have to search your enemies for a long time don't make it so small that it is boring create always two or more ways to reach/leave an important spot (bombspot, hostages, spawn). try to keep it balanced. neither t nor ct should have big advantages select the right tiles for the right place. it has to be obvious which tiles are walls, which are floor and which are obstacles. never use tiles which look alike for walls AND obstacles! never user music in your map don't use too many entities. too many graphics and effects can ruin the fps. add stuff like crates which can be used as cover. try to avoid big open areas without any cover. NEVER EVER add stupid "traps" which hurt the player and which can only be spotted when you run into them. they are just frustrating. simply have a look at the most played cs or cs2d maps and try to find reasons why they are fun (I already mentioned most of those reasons though). 1. Add bots (people think that bots are real players so they join your server!) but problem is that they can leave!
2. Lua Scripting! If you have lua active they might join becouse they think its a good mod or something like that!
3. Good server name! some people dont want to join a cheap server name! (but i might be wrong)
4. Get friends and invite theme on your server! people will start to join auto!
5. Look what kind of mod you have! Zombie,Construct,Standart,Deathmach!
Most people enjoy construct! on 88% atleast!
Some people like zombie! on 66% shure
Standart some people play it! on 44% shure (Use standart if you have a prizon map!)
Deathmach some play it! on 22% shure!
Team deathmach well im not shure about this! not many people like it on 15% shure!
Hope i helped you!
NTD has written
to make people join you own map i have my own way!
1. Add bots (people think that bots are real players so they join your server!) but problem is that they can leave!
1. Add bots (people think that bots are real players so they join your server!) but problem is that they can leave!
Actually since the newest version, you can see if there's any bot on the server-information. So no, players will see from the serverlist if there are bots or not.
but i recommend way 5 and 3 they always work for me!
http://www.plunder.com/-download-f6e8d107da.htm
Screens:
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You shold keep in mind thise things:
as. mode:
- have at least 2 escape pts.
- make sure that the Terrorist base is closer to the Escape zone (to make sure that Terrorist can Intercept the V.I.P in time)
- Avoid making narrow corridors or paths that lead to the escape pts. (terrorist will abuse this and use HE's or AwP)
de. mode:
-same here make 2 bombspots
-have more than 1 path to the bombspots (at least 64x64 size)
cs. mode:
- Make sure that you have more than 2 paths leading to the hostages.
- Have only 1 or 2 Hostage resq. pts.
-Have more than 2 hostages.
dm. mode:
-Make lots of spawn pts.
-Avoid making rooms with 1 entarge or add grenades on your map. (Camping on an Dm. map slows the game down and its frustaiting)
- Don't forget to add "Bandages" and "Ammo"
ctf. mode:
- Make an "no building" area near the flag.
- Avoid placing the Flag to close to the spawn pts. (it will be near impossible to score pts.)
-Make 3 or more paths leading to the Flag
dom. mode:
-Don't put domination pts. near the Spawn pts. (it will be a pain in the a** to domitate the pts. due enemy pressence)
-Put more than 2 domination pts.
-Put at least 1 domination pts. that req. 2 players + (don't forget this is a team oriented mode)
Zm. mode:
-Don't use the Option "Instant" on the Weapounds on the map (He's or Bandages etc.)
-Make sure that you don't make an Bunker like Building , Zombies mode its all about surrvival not camping.
Mumu has written
-Make sure that you don't make an Bunker like Building , Zombies mode its all about surrvival not camping.
Well in my zombie maps i always put some building with a breakable wall. The player like that.
THAT SUCKS!!
Mumu has written
Well that's why people hate to play as Zombies they usualy don't stand any chance againts 2 camping players equiuped with m249 except maybe using Guts Bombs.
I create a lua script where zombie have this weapons: a machette, Molotov and Gut Bomb. The zombie are more fast and they have more helth and armor.
So the Zombie can kill more Survivors.
This is going to be one helluva post. Beware, short-attention-span peoplez.
But I've been getting comments that my zombie maps are too hard to survive in. Then, the guys leave after they die once, or right after they join. The survivors had plenty chance to build and defend themselves, too. Maybe I'm wrong to hide the wrenches outside of the main 'base' that the survivors stay in, but they're certainly dying quickly.
[EX: zm_highwayv2]Then there are the Standard maps. The sad thing was that more people joined my server before I changed it to Standard from Zombie, which means one of two things: either my Standard [cs+de] maps really suck or Zombie maps are more popular.
But would it make more sense to change some of my Standard maps into Construction? I see people play that most of the time [as JuareZ mentioned], but I don't really think I can make one. Most I've seen are usually too simple or just a blank rectangle with a time limit to build before they can attack each other, which is tasteless in my opinion. I can see my largest map [de_monasteryv1] being turned into construction, but it is a massive map.
Btw, the maps I'm talking about in here are part of my map pack. You can find 'em in the Files section under "Horus' Map Pack."
Final thing: What kind of settings should I have on Standard? Fog-of-War and Friendly Fire? Money amount? xP
That's it... Thanks y'all, 'specially those who gave tips.
NTD has written
but its still a good idea!
but i recommend way 5 and 3 they always work for me!
but i recommend way 5 and 3 they always work for me!
no thats not a good idea. I don't join servers with bots on it.
FOW enabled, 800$, friendly fire disbled. Reaper has written
no thats not a good idea. I don't join servers with bots on it.
maybe YOU dont but others do! if you dont like bots why do you even bother joining anyother server with bots then? NTD has written
but its still a good idea!
but i recommend way 5 and 3 they always work for me!
but i recommend way 5 and 3 they always work for me!
no thats not a good idea. I don't join servers with bots on it.
horus has written
But I've been getting comments that my zombie maps are too hard to survive in. Then, the guys leave after they die once, or right after they join. The survivors had plenty chance to build and defend themselves, too. Maybe I'm wrong to hide the wrenches outside of the main 'base' that the survivors stay in, but they're certainly dying quickly.
You can make a base like region on the map but make sure that the Human Players will need to get out for Ammo Health etc. or make like -Door- that req. 2 or more players to be oppened.
Zombie Mode Options:
- FoW its esential.
- As for the staring money leave it to 800 I guess (My Zm maps don't have a buy zone so money its irelevant)
- Its not an good Idea to add super Weaponds or Armors
(especially Super Armor and Flametrower)
Also Note:
- An Black mask covering the map should be presesnt.
- Rain Slond be present.
- Multiple Spawn pts. for Zombies.
And No I don't agree with Zm+ Build mode and here is why:
- Infinite Health via Disspenser
- Infinite ammo and grenades.
- Wall III can be abused
- Turrets make camping way to easy.