English Creation or Evolution?

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19.12.16 07:12:20 am
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ohaz
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user Jawohl has written:
there was no adam and eve, no garden of eden; the world has always been as harsh as it has always been.
You have no clue about how to read a book like that. Sorry. The fact is that the bible contains scientific information that is very impressive for the time when it was created. The fact alone that Genesis 1 contains almost the exact order in which evolution happened is impressive. They shouldn't have known that back then.

Order in Genesis 1:

* Universe was created
* Sun and Earth were created, Earth was still just a rock
* Water was created on Earth, parts on Earth that had water (Sea) and parts that had land (Continents) happened
* Plants and Sea animals appeared
* Land animals appeared
* Humans appeared

Isn't that exactly what evolution theory suggests? When did evolution theory get developed? When did the bible get written, when did it get spread by voice? It's so far down the timeline that they couldn't have observed those facts using science - science by far wasn't that developed back then.

Adam and Eve were a symbol for the first humans. Their children a symbol for how humanity started being aggressive towards each other instead of living in peace. It's symbols. You don't have to take every word literally. The bible was developed in a way for people back then to understand it - at least parts of it. The other, more scientific, parts were in there too, but there also were stories that simplified things. When you read the bible you have to differentiate between those two types of text.
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19.12.16 09:15:17 am
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interesting perspective; however;
everything was supposedly done in 6 days.

not to mention countless other contradictions.

this doesn't legitimise the bible.'

~actually all it does is make you look ignorant for believing
'parts' of a book of which you were expected to believe whole.
19.12.16 11:07:43 am
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@user ohaz: To be honest if someone asked me in what order things were created this would be the only logical order. Of course in that time things considered logical would be a lot different to now, but this could just be considered a lucky guess. A very lucky one at least.
19.12.16 01:20:19 pm
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user Jawohl has written:
interesting perspective; however;
everything was supposedly done in 6 days.
The same paragraph itself shows that those 6 days are not 6 days on earth. It says that day and night have been created, but that's after it says that day 2 has started. So it can't be "human" days.

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~actually all it does is make you look ignorant for believing
'parts' of a book of which you were expected to believe whole.
Also, this is not completely correct. The bible has been written down by humans. Humans make mistakes. The bible does not have to be completely correct.

@user Yates: Well, it can have been a lucky guess, that's true. That's true for all of science though. There is no final proof that our proofs have not been an accident
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19.12.16 01:35:56 pm
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@user ohaz: Indeed correct. Eventually everything is based on theories and wild guesses.
19.12.16 01:36:18 pm
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Vladimir Putin
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It says it took 6 days to create the world, but this shows that we don't talk about a magician that poofs everything into existence, but instead it happened over a long period of time.
Even the founder of the big bang theory, a Catholic priest, didn't take it too literally.
19.12.16 10:58:21 pm
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user ohaz has written:
The same paragraph itself shows that those 6 days are not 6 days on earth. It says that day and night have been created, but that's after it says that day 2 has started. So it can't be "human" days.


Thats a terrible excuse; when the bible was wrote; there was no thought of relativity, or anything subnormal (remember these people thought the world was flat.)

your thinking too hard into this.

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Malformed quote. I've fixed it for you. /user Fraizeraust
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