English Increase the grenade timer?

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Increase the grenade timer?
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no, make the delay even shorter!
7.89% (6)
no, keep it as it is (1.3 sec)!
25.00% (19)
yes, slightly increase it (1.6 secs)!
10.53% (8)
yes, increase it (1.8 secs)!
40.79% (31)
yes, increase it very much (>2.0 secs)!
5.26% (4)
I do not care!
10.53% (8)
76 votes cast
15.09.09 03:27:58 pm
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DC
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What do you think about the delay between throwing a grenade and the actual explosion? Please vote!

This is especially about HE and flash grenades.

Also see:
http://www.unrealsoftware.de/forum_posts.php?post=148976
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15.09.09 03:31:08 pm
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Right !

I `ve played a old version and i got flashed by myself .. and it take the right time.

but when i am flashed in this version it looks like it is too little.
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15.09.09 03:33:57 pm
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Sarim
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Could be a bit longer, but the best would be if you can choose in options or ingame (right mousebutton)
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15.09.09 03:39:16 pm
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spartan029
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I will partake. I wonder the difference when the nades have been changed.
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15.09.09 04:30:29 pm
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Sarim has written:
Could be a bit longer, but the best would be if you can choose in options or ingame (right mousebutton)
Or it could be a new command in the console? like mp_nadetime, or sv_grenade_explode_time.
15.09.09 04:46:32 pm
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Thanks for the poll.
I voted for "yes, slightly increase it"
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15.09.09 04:53:23 pm
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well dc, the best would be you make a new sv_xxx option for this than fix it.
15.09.09 05:10:15 pm
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spartan029
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He was saying in the thread he might implement that.

by now its pretty much obvious that it will be increased to 1.8 seconds.
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15.09.09 05:56:19 pm
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ofcorse no!

i dont agree with pro - first u should give u real nickname after u should say "i playing till 1.0.3 ver!"

next, he granades isn't a "god waepon" every one can dodge them and every one can kill with he.

are u played cs:s or cs1.6 ? i think no in 3d cs u cant avoid he's and flashbang's (u can dodge when u turn back to explosion) and u can kill sombody by flashbang - yeah thats true u can see it on this picture: http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/1221/dedust20046.jpg

btw. in real when u get 5 bullets u probably die in game not
15.09.09 08:29:11 pm
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just add
mp_grentimer X

X it seconds)
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15.09.09 09:26:58 pm
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se_ba has written:
ofcorse no!

i dont agree with pro - first u should give u real nickname after u should say "i playing till 1.0.3 ver!"

next, he granades isn't a "god waepon" every one can dodge them and every one can kill with he.

are u played cs:s or cs1.6 ? i think no in 3d cs u cant avoid he's and flashbang's (u can dodge when u turn back to explosion) and u can kill sombody by flashbang - yeah thats true u can see it on this picture: http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/1221/dedust20046.jpg

btw. in real when u get 5 bullets u probably die in game not


I get "what's your real nick?" about 10 times each time I play CS2D, I'm used to it now, and I don't respond to it.
Just saying that I was in |UsK| in 0.4, |puRe|, and d0paMiNe.

I never said "granades" are "god waepon", I'm merely making an example of how they are in certain situations: Godlike. I know you in-game seba, but you don't know me.
Your not really good, so that says alot more about you then me.

Yes I've played CS 1.6 and CS Source,
and your assumption is wrong, because in those games grenades are of less importance and more of a "usefull tool" like I stated many times before. You don't see constant bombardment even in rare cases in those games, because in those games the primary function to kill is with your primary guns, not HE's, not to mention the timing explosion is alot more delayed then CS2D's. So in CS2D it's alot easier to get killed by HE's and Flashbangs, by the obvious fast explosion reason.
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15.09.09 09:52:20 pm
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The main design of the HE in the original CS2D (even if not intended by the designer) was as a deterrence weapon. It worked well then and I've always believed that it should have been preserved in the transition to 0.1.0.5.

This is in part to se_ba's and anyone else who will argue on a generic assertion.

HE is not a god weapon. HE is however overpowered. There's a clear delineation, and that delineation is formed from the perceptual interpretation of the two words. A person who wields an HE almost always have a significant advantage over those who don't. This is what I and many others define as 'overpowered'

2-tier argument against the CS argument.

1. The HE usually does minimal damage to a player in CS.
2. Throwing a Flashbang directly at an enemy for actual damage constitutes less then 1% of the usage of a flashbang.

Also, showing us one screenshot of its possibility doesn't in any way justify this. In the same way that a specific case can not be used to warrant a generalization.
15.09.09 10:00:20 pm
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i palying since 2004 then i should know u i think i know and remember most old players

u played in usk yeah? then say ur nickname what u use in this clans all clans :), its not hard

look, u tlkink - u know me but i dont know u yeah i dont know u becaouse everyone can use nick "pro"

u think i not realy good :D? it's funny, i'm creating one of oldest clan (<SouL_HunterS>) and i think we are one of best clan in cs2d (in PCL 3rd position), next i get some more achiwments in game but u? u have achiwments? invidual or team? i think u scary say u real nickname, why? its not hard - look, everyone can say i played since bla bla bla


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maybe easier kill but when u cover behind wall u dont lost hp. u realy remember 0.4? u remember flash granades there? got flashed was very hard x] and buying it is not sense. granades now is very good i think. maybe powerfull and range but timing explosion is ok
btw. flaesh granades are best in css/cs1.6 than cs2d when u got 3 flashes in css when enemy rushing (ex. long in de_dust2 when terro rush and throwing flahes from doors and from up) u probably die look in cs2d u cant flash people in same positions or in cs2d u cant turn back and got smallest flash effect. x]
15.09.09 10:14:45 pm
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se_ba has written:
i palying since 2004 then i should know u i think i know and remember most old players

u played in usk yeah? then say ur nickname what u use in this clans all clans :), its not hard

look, u tlkink - u know me but i dont know u yeah i dont know u becaouse everyone can use nick "pro"

u think i not realy good :D? it's funny, i'm creating one of oldest clan (<SouL_HunterS>) and i think we are one of best clan in cs2d (in PCL 3rd position), next i get some more achiwments in game but u? u have achiwments? invidual or team? i think u scary say u real nickname, why? its not hard - look, everyone can say i played since bla bla bla


@topic
maybe easier kill but when u cover behind wall u dont lost hp. u realy remember 0.4? u remember flash granades there? got flashed was very hard x] and buying it is not sense. granades now is very good i think. maybe powerfull and range but timing explosion is ok
btw. flaesh granades are best in css/cs1.6 than cs2d when u got 3 flashes in css when enemy rushing (ex. long in de_dust2 when terro rush and throwing flahes from doors and from up) u probably die look in cs2d u cant flash people in same positions or in cs2d u cant turn back and got smallest flash effect. x]


Please stop trying to stalk me for my name, thanks.
I don't want to get into a "whatz zeh best cs2d clanzorz?"
debate but sH isn't in the list of one of the oldest clans.
The oldest clans are pre-0.1.0.3 version such as the old Storm_PL, when STORM wasn't international but just for Polish.

Quit with that "achivments invidual team ur scared blabla"
Stay on-topic, thanks.

And yeah your right, in 0.4 it was alot harder getting your nade throws correctly thrown then it is now, making it a lot more interesting and opens the gameplay up for more tactics instead of determining the winner by how easily he killed an enemy with a HE, or Flash'd + Rushes in other cases. Remember, the primary focus to take out enemies is with your primary weapons.
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15.09.09 10:42:36 pm
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in this game is very hard kill 4/5 people rushes and using only 30 bulets from m4 (when ur enemy is not bad and have 100hp) then u need something else to ur primary waepon like he and flashes


now is all good and we shouldnt change nades... primary waepon is not powerful like in another cs then we need power of he and flashes



btw. yeah storm is oldest than sH - 3 months sH (full name <SouL_HunterS> was created in december 2004 )
btw. the oldest clan is BTC after was UzZ (sC)/storm after sH and after half year was created DoD - i talk about clans who still playing in this game
form where u take u list hahah


we talking about game, then people who want change smth should give real name! probably u aren't play in 1.03 or u very unliked people - say ur name ! dont be annonymous !


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THEN EOT!
but it's realy stupid when anonymous people want change something
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15.09.09 10:49:35 pm
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se_ba has written:
we talking about game, then people who want change smth should give real name! probably u aren't play in 1.03 or u very unliked people - say ur name ! dont be annonymous !


The beautiful thing about the internet is that you can stay anonymous. Some people don't want to be known, some do.
What are you? internet police?
If you really think being anonymous on CS2D means your "unliked" then your really biased and I'd advice you to stop talking to me, thanks.

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I get the idea that your either retarded or just trolling.
There is no such rule as "if your anonymous then you cannot suggest/discuss things". Check your facts before opening your mouth. Also, I'm a member, I registered on Unreal Software, this counts as not being anonymous.
Ever heard of different timezones? Just because you don't see people in-game doesn't mean they don't exist, ever heard of sleep? In your sleep, other players from the other side of the world can be playing CS2D.

So much for me being "anonymous" right?
Your really not that smart, and you posting a topic on
a tournament CS2D website saying "go to Unreal Software and vote NO !1!1" shows really how desperate and pathetic you are. What's next? Make new accounts so you can vote on "no" constantly?
I'm really done with talking to a child..
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15.09.09 10:58:03 pm
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F*ck you Pro. What experience do you have?
You're completely talking bullshit.
The grenade timer is fine as it is now. True, HE is very strong, only IF you know how to use it.
15.09.09 10:58:28 pm
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LilCoder has written:
F*ck you Pro. What experience do you have?
You're completely talking bullshit.
The grenade timer is fine as it is now. True, HE is very strong, only IF you know how to use it.


Ignorant piece of tool.
Try playing CS2D for atleast 3 years before attempting to dismiss my statements as "bullshit".
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15.09.09 11:18:29 pm
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Ok, I've also been playing CS2D for almost three years, I could say the timers are fine, but it's not like the good old CS2D.
I think that the 1.8 delay is way too exagerated, anyways, players (pro players and noobs) aren't the ones who control CS2D, it's DC. So it's worthless to flame here or saying that things like:
"DC is a noob because AK sux"
"DC is a noob because CS2D is 2D"
"DC is a noob because USGN isn't always online when I want to play CS2D"
I've seen a lot of people (or childs) saying things like that in game, but Pro made a post argumenting his suggestion without saying "DC noob" so I think he is in his right of suggesting...
16.09.09 12:36:21 am
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Pro, until you came, nobody really complained about the grenade timer. All the "Pro's" in cs2d, to which you do not belong, think it's fine right now.
You seem like a player who hasn't played since 0104 and starts complaining about things because they are not the way they used to be.
I remember when max was just released, SOO many people complained about the diagonal walk bug, now, you hear nobody about it. It's just something you'll have to adjust to.
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