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Would you use a Anti Cheat or would you maybe use it for your Server?

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Yes!
59.52% (25)
Yes, for my own server!
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I dont know yet...
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No
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I made antihack already,
Its checks if speed is not to high...
So anyway its not perfect:
You cant use anyteleports
Hackers still can hack with smaller speed.
And its hard to make weapon speed. Sometimes kicks you anyway.

Also my question:
How your anti cheat idea works?

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Blazzingxx has written
I made antihack already,
Its checks if speed is not to high...
So anyway its not perfect:
You cant use anyteleports
Hackers still can hack with smaller speed.
And its hard to make weapon speed. Sometimes kicks you anyway.

Also my question:
How your anti cheat idea works?

I think you made it with scripts server side, this is a clientside anti cheat.
That means you have to install the anticheat on your pc.
And clientside is the anti speedhack actually up to 100% perfect, there are nearly 0 chances to speedhack without completely disabling or hacking the AC.

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If you really are dying to know how this works then here's a hint. CS2D is not open source so they have to painstakingly spend hours upon hours analyzing the memory allocation and the d's to find out where the low level addresses of each of the events in cs2d are called and to create a automated payload delivery system to make callbacks (This is made even worse since the threads in blitz are sequential and there are no generators or factories to spawn threads). And of course, if you've ever tried to automate a decompilation of any blitz programs, you'll see that blitz uses irreversible compilation methods so that even the var names are destroyed and only references are left. They each have to spend days after days to figure out where the hooks to the callbacks should go and surprisingly enough, they actually have a working prototype out already. So I don't know about you but this seems to be a much more complicated project than what you've tried to picture.

And if you actually understood even a portion of what I've just said then you should be able to realize how big of a feat this is (on a normal game, having a payload system installed such as this would usually go into a budget of $20,000 or more). If you didn't understand a single sentence that I've just said then please do not post in this thread again.

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Sorry, but I havent asked you. I know that what you just said..
I were asking him what is his plans and if they are prepared for everything...
We need to be shure about that project is realy serious.

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Jonzku777 has written
ilovemyself, did you even read what leegao wrote back there?
Little more reading that writing please


Dude keep quiet if you are not even going to help to this guy. I didn't a understand a shit what leegao said because im not hacker. Even though what leegao said, i'm still posting cause i want to help with my own little knowledge. If you are not going to shut up, then join as a c++ coder. Maybe you are the chosen one.

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Well, I don't know your experience, but mostly the critics are true. This really is quite a difficult task when you want to do it via hooks - the only place where they really are useful imho are when you take screenshots at the end of the frame and compare the data to what should have been there. But aside from that, analyzing the executable image and scanning it for modifications as well as looking for modifications in the host system is more important.

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haha this Thread is really getting funny, will tell you guys something, i wrote with a second person the whole god damn AC, i get the shit out of this project and then there are comming ppl who trying to tell the community that im just a script kiddie?!
who the hell you guys think you are? why you flame ppl who are trying to help? think about what you say to a person you dont even know.
and thanks lee for the support, actually lee saw the source code and i also showed him the AC itself, he know it works...
so better just believe and support us

mgottschlag has written
Well, I don't know your experience, but mostly the critics are true. This really is quite a difficult task when you want to do it via hooks - the only place where they really are useful imho are when you take screenshots at the end of the frame and compare the data to what should have been there. But aside from that, analyzing the executable image and scanning it for modifications as well as looking for modifications in the host system is more important.

We worked the whole day today on new analyzing memory methods and its really going well.
And no its not difficult for us because kinda everything we are doing at the moment isnt the first time we did that, even when there are some pieces which are new, but without those pieces this project wont be a challenge and i dont develope on projects who has no challenges.
edited 1×, last 01.08.09 12:30:43 am

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Then why lee helps you with your project and says that its stupid at the same time o.O
And about that 20 000$ budjet...lee...wtf?

Uhm, Sorry if I somehow understood wrong... did lee said that with sarcasm or...?

And, if im right... DC could really help with this?
So... why not ask him some help?

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Jonzku777 has written
Then why lee helps you with your project and says that its stupid at the same time o.O
And about that 20 000$ budjet...lee...wtf?

Uhm, Sorry if I somehow understood wrong... did lee said that with sarcasm or...?

And, if im right... DC could really help with this?
So... why not ask him some help?

What lee said wasnt sarcasm omg -.-
read it again, carefully this time.
DC doesnt helps us developing, hes helping us as good as he can and he already helped us alot (hint: wait 1 month)

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I'm actually being serious... I've had a glimpse of the project and this is as deviated from conventional high-level programming as possible. And no, I'm not kidding, an anti-hack project of this scope in the commercial world would be guaranteed a project budget of at least 20,000 USD.

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Jonzku777 has written
So these guys have 20 000+$ in their pockets? o.O

They would have... If it was a commercial project and they were getting paid for it.

You are lucky, and you should be thankful that they are doing this for free...
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