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Do you think the weapon system is a little imbalanced and or getting old ?

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Nope, I like everything the way it is.
17.39% (4)
I think it's imbalanced, but I like the guns
65.22% (15)
I think it's imbalanced and the guns are old.
17.39% (4)
I think it's balanced but the guns are old.
0.00% (0)
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Lukeymoo
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I find that cs2d's weapons in general seem to be just imbalanced , the only weapons that seemed to be used are the M4 , AK , Scout, AWP, and sometimes I run into people using the AUG or SG. Each team shouldn't have a different gun equivalent to that of the other teams , for example the m4 and the ak , there slightly different only by accuracy and maybe power. But in general I just don't like the fact that an MP5 can't be efficiently used against someone with an AK or M4. I also don't like how the bullets can go through multiple people. for example an AWP shot will eliminate infinite number of people that are on top or adjacent to each other. Maybe a simple way to solve the first half of my post is to just lower the damage of all assault rifles to something close to the SMG's. I also propose a new addition to the aiming system, recoil. The cursor should jitter around a target due to recoil in a figure 8 motion maybe or maybe just some random jumping near the opponent, nothing drastic though that'd problably do more bad than good to realism. Also , before someone brings the topic of customizing the game, there aren't really to many skins that I liked I used several but they all got to old too quick and i don't think everyone that plays cs2d is capable of making their own skins. This game is really great but I'd like to see more balanced gameplay and new features added to it. And also connection system could be a little improved, maybe someone with experience with a faster programming language could help you out on that one, If I had learned how to program windows sockets and connections in C++ or Assembly i'd totally help but Im newb when it comes to Servers and Internet.

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R a G e
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Lukey , you're the old lukeymoo player?

If that's right you havn't played for ages ? right ?

CS2D gone bad , it's not even competitive anymore .

Peoples that once were newbies , are now pros and no-respect players , with that nigger atittudine.

The game has no recoil .
ADD RECOIL!

the bullet penetration throw 20000 n' infinite bodies it's common , and DC gives a fuck.

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Meh. Because peapole don't clanwar/normal match/etc in CS2D anymore. We all now see LUA scripts or fun maps. Such as RolePlay or other things.

But the recoil (i think) can be changed by lua.
The guns, also, you can change the damange using the damangefactor command.

As far as i know. In CS1.6. The awp can penetrate into 5 guys if they're in front of they

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The time i started to play CS2D people were cool and nice, now as @R a G e say'd, the noobs are pros OR hackers, not respectful.

When you make a realistic script like recoil, shaking screen when shoot, no sound when HE explodes, players start screaming ith their f**king retarded mouths: "AAAHHH I CAN'T PLAY LIKE THIS, BAD SCRIPT, AAHHHHHAOOHOHHHHHHH" < FUCK THAT


The game is dead...

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DC
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we had balancing threads before. I'm not planning to change balancing of the weapons. you can do that yourself with the weapon damage commands though. that's why they have been added.

it's not my intention to make CS2D realistic. my aim for CS2D is actually a casual game which is fun to play and where is no large gap between pros and noobs so everyone can have fun - without having to practice 10 hours per day.

Joaopcvcastro: people are claiming that the game is dead and that everything is getting worse for years already. I'm not sure if this is sad, annoying or just hilarious.
edited 1×, last 09.05.11 12:12:35 am

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Mechanolith
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Not that hilarious when it keeps like this, i know anyone can do anything, but those retarded players made already thousands of players stopping playing CS2D.

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DC
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yeah... welcome to the internet. idiots everywhere. that's really nothing new.

that's a general internet problem and not just a problem of CS2D. nothing I could do about that, sorry.

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but those retarded players made already thousands of players stopping playing CS2D.


you will have retard players in every game. in CS 1.6 i see 14 years old players. screaming in the mic when they got killed. flipping out and use badwords you never heared before.
you have them in every game.

the thing with the roleplay shit:
cs2d has LUA and is very open for userside changes. LUA wasnt always in cs2d. and cs2d didnt always had game modes like construction, zombie and else.
with all this new stuff, cs2d is more open for thoose user made roleplay shit.
but youre right in the point that cs2d was more fun some years ago. that because nobody plays with fow now. the complete tactical standard gaming is away. youre in trouble when you search a server with standard game mode, fow and many players in it.

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nothing I could do about that, sorry.


you already have. USGN ID = account here, now.
normaly i hate it when you change things or add new stuff (in most times, i dont like youre new ideas...)
but THAT was a thing that i like. its harder to register here then at the old USGN page. (disabled trash-mail hoster and else)
i see more guys now with USGN ID then some month ago. thats a thing that i realy like, couse its easyer to ban all the dumbasses now. for that, i say: "great job, dark corner"

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I`m absolutely agree with RaGe.

Make bullets weaker and add recoil (I mean like in Subvein one). CS 1.6 got it, CSS got it. All shooters got it and it not bad. Only cs2d got players with steel hands with no-recoil.

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Well, recoil is kinda bad in most of games, it has to be really balanced, like in MW2.
CS1.6 looks like that it's a 5 years old kid shooting with an minigun (while with AK-47).
And MW2 looks like a real soldier shooting with it.

Btw, it may be a good solution DC:
Make U.S. account necessary to play CS2D, without it, you can only play with bots. That would keep much retarded, hackers and other away of CS2D. It would be easier to report someone and there would be more power to you over the players.

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if u want a realistic game, then go play a 3d one k

btw dc, why does the sound in cs1.6 feel so much more precise than the sound in cs2d?

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DC
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@R a G e: that's probably something that could be changed. yeah.

@Joaopcvcastro: your "good solution" is already implemented. cs2d cmd sv_usgnonly - server hosters can decide if they want to use it. most decide to keep this setting disabled though.
of course I'll not force people to create an account just to be able to play online. that would suck and would totally fuck up the "simply load and play within 1 minute"-principle of cs2d. (this has been discussed several times too)

@FlooD: I really don't know what you are talking about.

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I feel that the weapons are imbalanced but that can be fixed by using the cs2d cmd mp_weapondmg command either via configuration file (in example: weapon_config.cfg) that would hold all of the values inside of it which you can run on startup of your server, which I find most convenient. There is a additional command we can use to multiply the damage of the weapons which is cs2d cmd mp_damagefactor. Well, that's the solution for that.

Now when it comes to graphics on the weapons I feel they're getting a bit old. But as always there is also a solution for that by downloading skins... the thing is, they aren't implemented as default weapon skins. I especially have a slight distaste of the sniper skins, they appear to me very big in a way. I guess somehow I'm used to the very nostalgic skins of the very previous versions of CS2D (not talking about the CS2D Max ones) but anyways. Perhaps a weapon skinning contest would settle things the right way. If it doesn't appear like a good idea then it's okay with me. I'm just adding this as a suggestion. We have some great skinners at Unreal Software, if they want they could perhaps participate in a skinning contest and the winner would get their weapon graphics implemented into CS2D. I just think it's a somewhat great idea. What do you you think?

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@FlooD: I really don't know what you are talking about.


meh ok i'll record the sound with fraps and show you a comparison

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Nice @KimKat7, i think that the weapons are getting old too, and not that realistic, that's why im making the realistic pack, but a contest would surely bring better weapon packs than mine.

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Glad to see that at least some aspects of my argument are agreed with, Cs2d isn't the same anymore. Years ago when I first ran across this game back when there was the the line thing coming out of your gun, this game was the best. Now it seems like there's absolutely no tactical aspect to this game what so ever. When you join a standard match what do you see, the usual buyscript ak/m4 , armor, he and flashes then everyone just runs across map to just shoot. I am aware of the ways to reduce damage and other things the like, but I'm not the server host, admin, or anything of authority. Im a cs2d vet and I continue to play this game every time i feel the need to play a tactical game, but then i remember, "oh yeah theres no tactics in this game" and I get so pissed at how this game has been overrun by Fun servers and non-standard game modes. The game has been disinteresting to Old vets like me which is problably one of the main reasons popular clans disappeared. I no longer see these famous clans like dopamine , TGV , LaG, toXic, and many of the great players , like Xion, EXTiiNCT, Avenger, Ping, And so many others that I have completely forgotten, their names unknown to these newbies that are changing the shape of cs2d. similar to what has happened to Hip Hop but I won't go into that now.

@Rage I am the old vet, I do play this game but Im not into it as i used to be. I don't really take the time to show off my name and skill set because the players just don't have that mentality that they used to have. maybe it's because all the old players are now 15+ and it's part of maturing and this game is simply going on a cycle.. I stated this game when I was 12 Im now 15...shows how i Much I would truly love to see this game improved a bit more.

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And Brazil wins again... one more game down, i dunno why internet mundial server doesn't ban this f**king country...

Soon it will be Minecraft, just needs time to this game got totally cracked allowing idiots and noobs to full it and destroy, parasits, i hate my country.

Most of the guys who are up to this are brazilians, because they keep filling servers with their noobish, hacks, and disrespectful personality, that's an evident problem.
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