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last time i saw a movie called "The Pianist", a popular pianist who is trying to survive those german attacks, yes, in world war 2, that movie made me cry, it's so sad that he lost his family, and he was so lucky
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If Woodrow Wilson, Georges Clemencau and David Lloyd George would have actually agreed on important matters and weren't so stubborn in their own beliefs then I can't help wonder if Hitler would had never rised to power after the climax of the Great War.

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If Woodrow Wilson, Georges Clemencau and David Lloyd George would have actually agreed on important matters and weren't so stubborn in their own beliefs then I can't help wonder if Hitler would had never rised to power after the climax of the Great War.


Wilson was the sole opposition to what Europeans considered the norms for treating the losers of the war. If Wilson relented, or if a consensus was met to immediately implement the European conditions, Germany would still be subjected to the abuse that it suffered.

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If Woodrow Wilson, Georges Clemencau and David Lloyd George would have actually agreed on important matters and weren't so stubborn in their own beliefs then I can't help wonder if Hitler would had never rised to power after the climax of the Great War.


Wilson was the sole opposition to what Europeans considered the norms for treating the losers of the war. If Wilson relented, or if a consensus was met to immediately implement the European conditions, Germany would still be subjected to the abuse that it suffered.


Problem was, politicians often found themselves in the situation were the public were too keen to get their opinions through onto matters.
The British were riled at the Germans, after a war of propaganda and lost loved ones why wouldn't they be? However, Lloyd George knew that a too large of quantity of reparations on Germany would, in the long run, harm Britain too, as they were both major trade partners and Britain needed a stable German economy to trade with.
So while he knew the conditions of the treaty shouldn't be too harsh, he knew he'd certainly lose support back home if they weren't.

Naturally, as they always do, the French whined and wanted the harshest of punishments on Germany. In fact, they fought that the demilitarisation of the Rhineland was too leneant, they wanted it to be French territory altogether.

Thus, you had three major leaders who wanted different things , Clemancau for revenge, Wilson for idealism and Lloyd George who wasn't quite sure what to go for

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he had control over holland from 1940 till 1945,
then came the engish people free us.
maybe you know about Anne-Frank?
she was a dutch girl... and she left a diary, but she was murded..:(

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he had control over holland from 1940 till 1945,
then came the engish people free us.
maybe you know about Anne-Frank?
she was a dutch girl... and she left a diary, but she was murded..:(


u mean russian?

ive got a question, why did german people kill all the jews in the night?

they just like push out the jews from their house and tell them to run off before they got shot, thats so cruel

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u mean russian?

ive got a question, why did german people kill all the jews in the night?

they just like push out the jews from their house and tell them to run off before they got shot, thats so cruel


You make it sound like all the Germans were involved in the Nazi party. Please do not confuse the two. There were many Germans involved in protecting and rescuing Jews.

As for cruelty, well, all war is cruel to civilians and non-combatants and it's even worse when a section of civilisation is singled out by a warring party, but this is no different than other cruelties of war. The only thing that makes it stand out is the scale on which it was performed.

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@Psytechnic: Most of the germans did what the nazi party said, because they were to frightened. If they didn't do what the nazis said, they would have been put to the "Konzentrationslager" (concentration camp) too.

But yes, there were some who fought against it. Oskar Schindler for example. He saved ~1200 jews from dying.

@Mod-_er_- : The nazi party thought, that the aryan race is some kind of supermen. Jews were (in there thoughts) subhuman beings. That's why they killed them.

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oh come on , guys , its not like the germans are bombing the crap out of your city , you do notice some germans DO save the jews from the Nazi Party , read it up , more then 5000 jews were saved from the holocaust

unless you are a Neo-Nazi............ boom , headshot

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"History is past and past should be forgotten,Thats why you hate the subject dont'cha?" -Somebody with a sense of humor and seriousness (seriously bad combination)
So what Hitler WAS a dictator and used germany at his advantage?
What would you/your country's army do if your elected president says something like that?
would you go rebel or join the army like a patriot?
I see no reason why we should hate germany for what a dictator did neither i see a reason to hate nazism,its their religion and let those fanatics be.
There are alot of religions in which inhumanity is included
I am not saying love it,neither i am saying hate it,just trying to say that let them be but if they bug you,HIT THEM HARD
in the face

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Thing was, Hitler was voted into power by the power, and in many respects, did many great things, he created new jobs which people desperately needed (because of the Great Depression) by a number of ways, namely constructing many of the autobahns that Germany is famous for.

Of course, he did many 'evil' things that will be remembered, but people forget how (argueably) he helped Germany too.

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Of course, he did many 'evil' things that will be remembered, but people forget how (argueably) he helped Germany too.

of course but he just did it for the advantages in a war.

@FD god
the great depression leaded to a crises in germany too

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Thing was, Hitler was voted into power by the power, and in many respects, did many great things, he created new jobs which people desperately needed (because of the Great Depression) by a number of ways, namely constructing many of the autobahns that Germany is famous for.
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Constructing the autobahns was an idea of the Weimar Republic, Hitler pretended that he had the idea. same thing with the "Reichsarbeitsdienst". The only thing he did on his own was making national debt for supporting these things, he also forbid jews to have own shops and the shops were given to german people which reduced the unemployment too.

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the great depression is america's buisness , correct me if i am wrong


The Great Depression pretty much hurt the entire world, although Russia was hardly affected by it.

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Constructing the autobahns was an idea of the Weimar Republic, Hitler pretended that he had the idea. same thing with the "Reichsarbeitsdienst". The only thing he did on his own was making national debt for supporting these things, he also forbid jews to have own shops and the shops were given to german people which reduced the unemployment too.


Although the idea of the autobahn was a product of the Weimar, it was the Nazi's who built the majority of them.

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Although the idea of the autobahn was a product of the Weimar, it was the Nazi's who built the majority of them.

True, because the Weimar Republic didnt exist any more, so they had no opportunity to build them. Think about it
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